Comments on: Idlewild http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/ Creativity x Technology Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:09:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Julie McKowen http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-403 Julie McKowen Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:22:27 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-403 I recently visited Storybook Forest with my eight year old daughter and my husband. Although it was my first visit, my husband visited it many times as a child. He has a personal connection to the characters - his grandfather designed and painted most of them. In fact, my husband was the model for the little boy in the schoolhouse. We are grateful that storybook forest has continued and that my daughter has been able to experience this unique connection to her great-grandfather. Thank you to the people who maintain the park have kept it alive all these years. I recently visited Storybook Forest with my eight year old daughter and my husband. Although it was my first visit, my husband visited it many times as a child. He has a personal connection to the characters – his grandfather designed and painted most of them. In fact, my husband was the model for the little boy in the schoolhouse. We are grateful that storybook forest has continued and that my daughter has been able to experience this unique connection to her great-grandfather. Thank you to the people who maintain the park have kept it alive all these years.

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By: fred http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-402 fred Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:34:17 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-402 I remember storybook forest from when I was a child in the early 70's. And this place is among a long list of fun, loving, fantastic family memories that I will never forget. I am so pleased to see that storybook forest is still around. I can't wait to bring my little nephew to see the park, and hope he loves it as much as i did. These are the kind of memories I have from my childhood and I want to share the same memories with the little ones in my life. My parents did an awesome job making our growing up years enjoyable and fun, and through of all the places we've been and all the things we have seen, storybook forest ranks right up there on top with the best of them. My father recently passed away and it's beautiful memories like these that helps get me through, and it's places like these that some of the best memories come from. And I want our children to be able to grow up knowing that some of the more simple and sweet things in life are the ones we cherish the most. Thank you so much for keeping stroybook forest alive! God bless you all! I remember storybook forest from when I was a child in the early 70′s. And this place is among a long list of fun, loving, fantastic family memories that I will never forget. I am so pleased to see that storybook forest is still around. I can’t wait to bring my little nephew to see the park, and hope he loves it as much as i did. These are the kind of memories I have from my childhood and I want to share the same memories with the little ones in my life. My parents did an awesome job making our growing up years enjoyable and fun, and through of all the places we’ve been and all the things we have seen, storybook forest ranks right up there on top with the best of them. My father recently passed away and it’s beautiful memories like these that helps get me through, and it’s places like these that some of the best memories come from. And I want our children to be able to grow up knowing that some of the more simple and sweet things in life are the ones we cherish the most. Thank you so much for keeping stroybook forest alive!
God bless you all!

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By: Snow White http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-401 Snow White Thu, 30 Jun 2005 05:07:31 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-401 So I just looked back on this randomly today, and saw all the remarks the other people on my team gave. I want to apologize - I never meant to start anything like that! That's a little absurd. Hope you weren't too offended - lovers of Idlewild, I guess, can get a little defensive. ;) Snow So I just looked back on this randomly today, and saw all the remarks the other people on my team gave. I want to apologize – I never meant to start anything like that! That’s a little absurd. Hope you weren’t too offended – lovers of Idlewild, I guess, can get a little defensive. ;)

Snow

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By: Allerleirauh http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-400 Allerleirauh Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:48:44 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-400 I think that what the stalwart defenders of this amusement park (one I've never been to, but as a child in another state I went to a similar place that probably looks nothing like what I remember) are failing to grasp is that this article isn't really ABOUT you. It isn't about your park. It isn't even about farm animals or paint. It's about how perspectives change when a child becomes an adult. It's more than just getting taller. I, personally, am not going to make any sweeping and nostalgic claims that children have an innocent viewpoint untarnished by broken promises, nor that adults have the sole claim to cynicism. However, mostly children are not ashamed to enjoy things that adults in the same situation are compelled to mock, make excuses for doing, or just plain avoid unless they want to be marked as a weirdo. These things include: stomping in mud puddles.. farting.. reading juvenile books.. make-believe.. and, apparently, going to storybook parks. This guy went to your park for whatever reason. He saw how much the children love it (our culture allows them to, since they're children). It's clear that the people who work there love it too (they're allowed to, in a different way, since it's their job). His respect for the ability to love a storybook park and to see the ideal reality (of imaginary things and storybook characters) behind the imperfect facade (of concrete things like well-maintained paint and carefully-designed costumes and friendly non-smoking actors), an ability which he no longer possesses and can only mourn, is profound enough to overcome the geas requiring cynical card-carrying adults to mock childish pursuits. Stop defending your facade for a moment and try to feel his pain... the pain of a typical adult who looks around and sees, not an ideal fantasy of the imagination, but every broken promise and every lie told to them as a child. Why, yes, Virginia. Of course there is a Santa Claus. I think that what the stalwart defenders of this amusement park (one I’ve never been to, but as a child in another state I went to a similar place that probably looks nothing like what I remember) are failing to grasp is that this article isn’t really ABOUT you. It isn’t about your park. It isn’t even about farm animals or paint. It’s about how perspectives change when a child becomes an adult. It’s more than just getting taller.

I, personally, am not going to make any sweeping and nostalgic claims that children have an innocent viewpoint untarnished by broken promises, nor that adults have the sole claim to cynicism. However, mostly children are not ashamed to enjoy things that adults in the same situation are compelled to mock, make excuses for doing, or just plain avoid unless they want to be marked as a weirdo. These things include: stomping in mud puddles.. farting.. reading juvenile books.. make-believe.. and, apparently, going to storybook parks.

This guy went to your park for whatever reason. He saw how much the children love it (our culture allows them to, since they’re children). It’s clear that the people who work there love it too (they’re allowed to, in a different way, since it’s their job). His respect for the ability to love a storybook park and to see the ideal reality (of imaginary things and storybook characters) behind the imperfect facade (of concrete things like well-maintained paint and carefully-designed costumes and friendly non-smoking actors), an ability which he no longer possesses and can only mourn, is profound enough to overcome the geas requiring cynical card-carrying adults to mock childish pursuits. Stop defending your facade for a moment and try to feel his pain… the pain of a typical adult who looks around and sees, not an ideal fantasy of the imagination, but every broken promise and every lie told to them as a child. Why, yes, Virginia. Of course there is a Santa Claus.

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By: Kalie (Bo Peep) http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-399 Kalie (Bo Peep) Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:18:53 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-399 also...the animals are very well taken care of by Bubba and I check on them periodically. They are very well loved and looked after by the entire team. They even will come up to me when they see me now. They seem quite happy:) Also, you stated: "I've left out the digression about overpriced amusement park food, and the complaints about screaming toddlers and grumpy parents." 1. Idlewild's food actually isn't that badly priced. It would cost the same at any restaurant. 2. Toddlers scream. Which if you have any, you would know. However, If you took kids to SBF you probably wouldn't have this view of it... 3. The grumpy parents yell at us quite often, we could use a cigarette break sometimes even though we don't smoke:) also…the animals are very well taken care of by Bubba and I check on them periodically. They are very well loved and looked after by the entire team. They even will come up to me when they see me now. They seem quite happy:)
Also, you stated:
“I’ve left out the digression about overpriced amusement park food, and the complaints about screaming toddlers and grumpy parents.”
1. Idlewild’s food actually isn’t that badly priced. It would cost the same at any restaurant.
2. Toddlers scream. Which if you have any, you would know. However, If you took kids to SBF you probably wouldn’t have this view of it…
3. The grumpy parents yell at us quite often, we could use a cigarette break sometimes even though we don’t smoke:)

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By: Kalie http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-398 Kalie Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:13:24 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-398 Once again, no one on our team smokes, so that couldn't apply to anyone:) I find that amazing, that we have a team of people mostly college students, and none smoke. Also, I think that anyting being worn out in SBF is due to children loving it too much. Kids climb and jump on everything in the place! Also, we have to clean things so often that occasionally the paint chips off due to being so clean:) I take a LOT of pride in storybook forest, and yet, I do not remember really going there as a child. All I can remember is the castle entrance that used to be there. I've fallen in love with it the past two years, and always will love storybook forest. You are making fun of us: "I'm confronted with the urge to mock, to denigrate, to poke fun at"...and then you continue to show us things that you decided to make fun of...not to mention that you made captions for the pictures that I would rather not ever know. So don't tell me you weren't making fun of us please. And in closing I must admit, that I too find the jack in the box slightly frightening, but aren't all of them? Once again, no one on our team smokes, so that couldn’t apply to anyone:) I find that amazing, that we have a team of people mostly college students, and none smoke. Also, I think that anyting being worn out in SBF is due to children loving it too much. Kids climb and jump on everything in the place! Also, we have to clean things so often that occasionally the paint chips off due to being so clean:)
I take a LOT of pride in storybook forest, and yet, I do not remember really going there as a child. All I can remember is the castle entrance that used to be there. I’ve fallen in love with it the past two years, and always will love storybook forest.
You are making fun of us:
“I’m confronted with the urge to mock, to denigrate, to poke fun at”…and then you continue to show us things that you decided to make fun of…not to mention that you made captions for the pictures that I would rather not ever know. So don’t tell me you weren’t making fun of us please.
And in closing I must admit, that I too find the jack in the box slightly frightening, but aren’t all of them?

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By: "Ann" http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-397 "Ann" Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:37:11 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-397 I too am in agreement with Kalie and Snow white. Partly only because I also work there. This is my second year at the park, and although only my second, Storybook forest is a place that everyone comes to love. Everyone who works in Storybook Forest works their hardest to keep the place clean and tidy. We get many comments throughout the day on how nice the place looks and how nice the characters are, and how they can interact very well with every single person walking through the forest. And the only place you may find the paint being worn off of is the bottom of Snow White's apple, due to it being one of the many props the children love, and it being dropped several times a day. The animals in the forest get taken care of very well, and they get their proper meals and exercise. They are one of the many things in the forest that the children love. Obviously you always thought that everything in storybook forest was a big joke, and never looked at the Forest through a child's eyes.. or even with a heart of a child. I know that your article wasn't intended to make fun of Idlewild, but it did offend us, especially us who work in Storybook Forest. I too am in agreement with Kalie and Snow white. Partly only because I also work there. This is my second year at the park, and although only my second, Storybook forest is a place that everyone comes to love. Everyone who works in Storybook Forest works their hardest to keep the place clean and tidy. We get many comments throughout the day on how nice the place looks and how nice the characters are, and how they can interact very well with every single person walking through the forest. And the only place you may find the paint being worn off of is the bottom of Snow White’s apple, due to it being one of the many props the children love, and it being dropped several times a day. The animals in the forest get taken care of very well, and they get their proper meals and exercise. They are one of the many things in the forest that the children love. Obviously you always thought that everything in storybook forest was a big joke, and never looked at the Forest through a child’s eyes.. or even with a heart of a child. I know that your article wasn’t intended to make fun of Idlewild, but it did offend us, especially us who work in Storybook Forest.

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By: peterb http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-396 peterb Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:19:40 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-396 Dear Kalie, I can tell that you couldn't stand reading the article. The way I can tell is that you think that the article is "making fun" of Idlewild, when in fact it is not, from which I deduce that you didn't actually read it. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Dear Kalie,

I can tell that you couldn’t stand reading the article. The way I can tell is that you think that the article is “making fun” of Idlewild, when in fact it is not, from which I deduce that you didn’t actually read it.

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

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By: peterb http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-395 peterb Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:14:44 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-395 Dear Snow White: I can understand that your vision of Idlewild differs from mine. That makes perfect sense: you grew up with it and experienced it as a child, and I did not. As you somewhat obliquely recognize, that is in large part what my article is about. It's likely that if I took you to Coney Island you wouldn't be as willing to overlook its many drawbacks as I am, precisely because you didn't ever see it through the eyes of a child. I think my description of the park is fair, and if our perspectives differ then perhaps that's simply because we are different people and notice different things. You can call my perspective cynical if you wish, but I'd just describe it as unsentimental. It would be cynical if I dismissed the point of view of the children who adore Idlewild as misguided and stupid, and I do not do that at all. The one inaccuracy in my article I will own up to is saying that you looked like you wanted a cigarette break. Actually, it was another actor (let's just call her "Tinkerbell", who I don't -think- is a character in Storybook Forest, since I don't want to get anyone else in trouble), but "Snow White" served the rhythm of the sentence better, so I took artistic license. Thanks for your interesting comments. Dear Snow White:

I can understand that your vision of Idlewild differs from mine. That makes perfect sense: you grew up with it and experienced it as a child, and I did not. As you somewhat obliquely recognize, that is in large part what my article is about. It’s likely that if I took you to Coney Island you wouldn’t be as willing to overlook its many drawbacks as I am, precisely because you didn’t ever see it through the eyes of a child.

I think my description of the park is fair, and if our perspectives differ then perhaps that’s simply because we are different people and notice different things. You can call my perspective cynical if you wish, but I’d just describe it as unsentimental. It would be cynical if I dismissed the point of view of the children who adore Idlewild as misguided and stupid, and I do not do that at all.

The one inaccuracy in my article I will own up to is saying that you looked like you wanted a cigarette break. Actually, it was another actor (let’s just call her “Tinkerbell”, who I don’t -think- is a character in Storybook Forest, since I don’t want to get anyone else in trouble), but “Snow White” served the rhythm of the sentence better, so I took artistic license.

Thanks for your interesting comments.

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By: Kalie http://tleaves.com/2004/06/22/idlewild/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Kalie Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:05:25 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=125#comment-394 I agree with the above. I am the current manager of Storybook Forest and am too in love with the place. I do not appreciate the view that you have of it at all. I could not stand reading this article because you know not what you speak of. So many people have fallen in love with Story Book Forest, I being one of them. I don't like the fact that you have such a horrible opinion of what our forest is like. And for the fact, not ONE of our characters smoke cigarettes. We all work very hard to keep the forest looking nice. I spend about three hours each day picking up garbage and scrubbing down everything in site to keep it looking nice. PLease consider all this before you decide to make fun of us again. I agree with the above. I am the current manager of Storybook Forest and am too in love with the place. I do not appreciate the view that you have of it at all. I could not stand reading this article because you know not what you speak of. So many people have fallen in love with Story Book Forest, I being one of them. I don’t like the fact that you have such a horrible opinion of what our forest is like. And for the fact, not ONE of our characters smoke cigarettes.

We all work very hard to keep the forest looking nice. I spend about three hours each day picking up garbage and scrubbing down everything in site to keep it looking nice. PLease consider all this before you decide to make fun of us again.

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