Comments on: iTunes OCD http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/ Creativity x Technology Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:09:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Derek Brown http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-720 Derek Brown Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:38:57 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-720 I have been looking for an album rating script for some time. i too have spent months rating my itunes collection. Is there somewhere I could download your scripts? The original doesn't work for me, as a lot of albums have songs that are not rateable (intros, bridges, etc) I have been looking for an album rating script for some time. i too have spent months rating my itunes collection. Is there somewhere I could download your scripts? The original doesn’t work for me, as a lot of albums have songs that are not rateable (intros, bridges, etc)

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By: Kelly DeYoe http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-719 Kelly DeYoe Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:46:50 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-719 Audioscrobbler data is public, yes, but it isn't like you have to attach your real world identifying data to it unless you want to. Also, once you've built up a listening profile, it does automatically generate a listing of other people whose listening habits are similar to yours, as well as a list of artist recommendations for artists you haven't listened to but might want to check out. Its ranking strategies aren't perfect, but they are interesting. And just because I don't care if anyone knows what I'm listening to: http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/kellyat9/ Audioscrobbler data is public, yes, but it isn’t like you have to attach your real world identifying data to it unless you want to.

Also, once you’ve built up a listening profile, it does automatically generate a listing of other people whose listening habits are similar to yours, as well as a list of artist recommendations for artists you haven’t listened to but might want to check out.

Its ranking strategies aren’t perfect, but they are interesting.

And just because I don’t care if anyone knows what I’m listening to:

http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/kellyat9/

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By: peterb http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-718 peterb Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:56:19 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-718 Robert, the whole point is that I -don't- know my likes/dislikes to a sufficient level of detail. I know the "big" ones, but am constantly being surprised. Getting a different view of the data can help enlighten me. Maybe we're talking past each other? I'm not sure. Robert, the whole point is that I -don’t- know my likes/dislikes to a sufficient level of detail. I know the “big” ones, but am constantly being surprised. Getting a different view of the data can help enlighten me.

Maybe we’re talking past each other? I’m not sure.

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By: Nat Lanza http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-717 Nat Lanza Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:58:04 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-717 I have the same need-a-little variety issue with "only high-ranked songs" playlists. So what I do instead is make fairly broad smart playlists to use with Party Shuffle and use the 'play high-rated songs more often' option combined with manual fiddling with the next-N-songs list every now and then. It's still not perfect, but it's good enough for me. I have the same need-a-little variety issue with “only high-ranked songs” playlists.

So what I do instead is make fairly broad smart playlists to use with Party Shuffle and use the ‘play high-rated songs more often’ option combined with manual fiddling with the next-N-songs list every now and then.

It’s still not perfect, but it’s good enough for me.

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By: Robert 'Groby' Blum http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-716 Robert 'Groby' Blum Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:25:11 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-716 Hm. Let me reconsider my last statement. Scrobbler is actually happy to share all your listening habits publicly - that rules it out for me. I'm all for anonymous data sharing, but I don't like that data tied to my identity... Hm. Let me reconsider my last statement. Scrobbler is actually happy to share all your listening habits publicly – that rules it out for me. I’m all for anonymous data sharing, but I don’t like that data tied to my identity…

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By: Robert 'Groby' Blum http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-715 Robert 'Groby' Blum Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:10:28 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-715 I'm confounded. Or -fused. Isn't the point of data mining to find interesting data that wasn't visible at a first glance? Why then produce a list that exactly reflects your likes/dislikes that you know in the first place? Unless, of course, this is only a first step. Have you tried matching your likes/dislikes against total playtime? Scrutinized your listening habits? Maybe you *do* like Kate Bush after all? That's what OCD is all about ;) That said, I *have* to scrobble now. That's a bit more interesting. What I'd really like to see is something like Scrobbler pointing me to music I've never listened to, though. Now *there* is an interesting application... I’m confounded. Or -fused.

Isn’t the point of data mining to find interesting data that wasn’t visible at a first glance? Why then produce a list that exactly reflects your likes/dislikes that you know in the first place?

Unless, of course, this is only a first step. Have you tried matching your likes/dislikes against total playtime? Scrutinized your listening habits? Maybe you *do* like Kate Bush after all? That’s what OCD is all about ;)

That said, I *have* to scrobble now. That’s a bit more interesting. What I’d really like to see is something like Scrobbler pointing me to music I’ve never listened to, though. Now *there* is an interesting application…

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By: Kelly DeYoe http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Kelly DeYoe Sun, 07 Nov 2004 00:21:06 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-714 Hey, buddy, don't even talk to me about musical OCD until you've signed up for Audioscrobbler, gotten a plugin and started scrobbling... It's a whole 'nother kinda obsession... http://www.audioscrobbler.com/ Hey, buddy, don’t even talk to me about musical OCD until you’ve signed up for Audioscrobbler, gotten a plugin and started scrobbling… It’s a whole ‘nother kinda obsession…

http://www.audioscrobbler.com/

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By: John Prevost http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-713 John Prevost Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:18:55 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-713 Bah! Do not mock Kate Bush! Er... That aside, one thing that might be useful is to weight ratings by song length--that way, things like the little interstitial pieces that only really make sense when you're listening to a whole album don't drag the rating down as much as they might otherwise. Bah! Do not mock Kate Bush!

Er… That aside, one thing that might be useful is to weight ratings by song length–that way, things like the little interstitial pieces that only really make sense when you’re listening to a whole album don’t drag the rating down as much as they might otherwise.

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By: psu http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-712 psu Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:18:49 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-712 I resist my robot overlords. I don't even know how to rate the damn songs. I resist my robot overlords. I don’t even know how to rate the damn songs.

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By: Mark Denovich http://tleaves.com/2004/11/05/itunes-ocd/comment-page-1/#comment-711 Mark Denovich Sat, 06 Nov 2004 04:47:56 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=228#comment-711 So I've rated nearly all my albums, using a similar methodology. The problem is that I need some way to adjust the probability that a song gets played. I could listen to 4 & 5s all day, but that gets boring... I need the occasional 3 or 2, and every once and a while 1 star song, to act as a musical sorbet to cleanse the palette. As far as I can tell iTunes can't handle this. The best I've come up with is a smart play list with all my 4s and 5s, + all unranked (which are mostly singles) If the proportion of songs are right it's OK, but it's still far from optimal. So I’ve rated nearly all my albums, using a similar methodology. The problem is that I need some way to adjust the probability that a song gets played. I could listen to 4 & 5s all day, but that gets boring… I need the occasional 3 or 2, and every once and a while 1 star song, to act as a musical sorbet to cleanse the palette. As far as I can tell iTunes can’t handle this.

The best I’ve come up with is a smart play list with all my 4s and 5s, + all unranked (which are mostly singles) If the proportion of songs are right it’s OK, but it’s still far from optimal.

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