Comments on: The Mis-Design of Everyday Things http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/ Creativity x Technology Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:09:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: psu http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2079 psu Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:20:10 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2079 A friend of mine just upgraded his Harmony remote and gave me the old one to try out. The layout of the buttons blows, but the overall operation is better than other universals I've used. It's still annoying that it can't read your mind do "setup" on the tv when i want it and "menu" on the tivo when i want it without making me switch into the device mode. Maybe I'll get the xbox version of this remote. A friend of mine just upgraded his Harmony remote and gave me the old one to try out.

The layout of the buttons blows, but the overall operation is better than other universals I’ve used. It’s still annoying that it can’t read your mind do “setup” on the tv when i want it and “menu” on the tivo when i want it without making me switch into the device mode.

Maybe I’ll get the xbox version of this remote.

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By: honus http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2078 honus Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:47:18 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2078 Buy a Harmony 880 remote. Set it up on the web with its little wizards which ask you all kind of nice questions. Press the button that says "Play a game." Your tv comes on, switches to the right input your stereo comes on, switches to the right input, pick up your 360 control and press the guide button. Train your kid to switch the game discs in the 360. Life is good again. Of course, you won't really be able to appreciate the 3d because you'll have jammed a pen in your eye getting everything set up so it works this way. Buy a Harmony 880 remote. Set it up on the web with its little wizards
which ask you all kind of nice questions. Press the button that says
“Play a game.” Your tv comes on, switches to the right input your
stereo comes on, switches to the right input, pick up your 360 control
and press the guide button. Train your kid to switch the game discs in
the 360.

Life is good again.

Of course, you won’t really be able to appreciate the 3d because you’ll
have jammed a pen in your eye getting everything set up so it works this
way.

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By: psu http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2077 psu Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:39:30 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2077 It's true. It's only recently that TVs in the U.S. had any kind of connector besides composite/s-vid. It’s true. It’s only recently that TVs in the U.S. had any kind of connector besides composite/s-vid.

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By: Jonathan Perret http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2076 Jonathan Perret Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:15:59 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2076 1. Any TV made round these parts since decades takes RGB through the SCART (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART) connector (and falls back to composite if RGB is not available from whatever device you hooked up). 2. I'm inclined to believe that you have not compared composite to component on the same TV. Crawling dots around fixed parts of a video game display are not a fatality ! And I'm not talking about high-res here, just image "steadiness". And color fidelity, too. But I don't mean to be obnoxious so I'll leave it at that. Even if it takes Madden 2006, you'll see the light eventually :) Cheers, --Jonathan 1. Any TV made round these parts since decades takes RGB through the SCART (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART) connector (and falls back to composite if RGB is not available from whatever device you hooked up).

2. I’m inclined to believe that you have not compared composite to component on the same TV. Crawling dots around fixed parts of a video game display are not a fatality ! And I’m not talking about high-res here, just image “steadiness”. And color fidelity, too.

But I don’t mean to be obnoxious so I’ll leave it at that. Even if it takes Madden 2006, you’ll see the light eventually :)

Cheers,
–Jonathan

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By: psu http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2075 psu Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:29:00 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2075 1. My TV doesn't take component video and is not broken. Until the "need" for a larger set and the coming of the Xbox 360, I had no reason to get a new TV. It's just TV. 2. The complication of setting up both component and composite video sources (say, component for DVD and composite for Tivo) is too much overhead to to pay to get the small amount of marginal gain in picture quality. Now that there is actually a reason to want higher video quality (Madden 2006 baby!) we can take the leap and figure it out. There was just no reason for it before. Who cares about high res. broadcast TV anyway. 1. My TV doesn’t take component video and is not broken. Until the “need” for a larger set and the coming of the Xbox 360, I had no reason to get a new TV. It’s just TV.

2. The complication of setting up both component and composite video sources (say, component for DVD and composite for Tivo) is too much overhead to to pay to get the small amount of marginal gain in picture quality.

Now that there is actually a reason to want higher video quality (Madden 2006 baby!) we can take the leap and figure it out. There was just no reason for it before.

Who cares about high res. broadcast TV anyway.

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By: Jonathan Perret http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2074 Jonathan Perret Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:03:34 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2074 The one thing that struck me in this post is your admission that your current setup is all composite or S-video. Apparently this blog's gourmet tastes don't extend to video interconnects... How can you even _stand_ to look at composite output ? Cheers, --Jonathan The one thing that struck me in this post is your admission that your current setup is all composite or S-video. Apparently this blog’s gourmet tastes don’t extend to video interconnects… How can you even _stand_ to look at composite output ?

Cheers,
–Jonathan

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By: mlehrian http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2073 mlehrian Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:50:13 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2073 For the life of me, I can't understand how this is not considered an complete and total failure of the A/V equipment industry. This technology has barely advanced in 20 years. The thing is, as soon as you have to explain a solution, you've already lost. And to everyone who says to get a programmable remote... the programmable remote is an admission of failure. It's like putting a band aid on a severed limb. First, programming them is like writing in assembly language. This is a task I do not want to do. (OK, I'll admit this is less of a problem with those Harmony remotes, but the rest of my complaints hold true for those as well). Second, they take ... wait for it ... forever ... to switch a complex system. Third, most of the time they are sensitive to the state of the equipment. "I tried to turn on your TV. Did it turn on? Is it in AUX2 mode? If not manually turn on the TV and switch it to AUX2 mode, then continue." Thanks, go programmable remote. Yay! Fourth, they're STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE. OMG! It's a remote control, people. Spend your money on an iPod, you'll be much happier. Fifth, undoubtedly you have *that one button* ... you know the one ... the one you really want to change with the remote but it just won't do it. I've got a couple. The first is turning on/off the A and B speakers on my receiver. They are manual buttons. Ain't no programmable remote in the world gonna do that. But I need that to switch sound from downstairs to upstairs. Second, for some reason, my stupid Sony VCR (still around so I don't have to buy Elmo on DVD) has this data screen that pops up and won't go away unless you have the original remote control. Anyway, I've strayed from the topic a bit, but the point is, all the technology exists and it's cheap. Why doesn't somebody frickin' build it already. The real answer to this is on-demand digital content (for example, Front Row), so I'll just sit tight and watch while the A/V equipment business is slowly eaten alive. Of course, I'm not sure how the XBox plays into all this. I'll just says that someday all this crap should be wireless and auto-negotiate the best configuration for each given environment (how's that for hand waving?) And speaking of mis-design, my daughter received an Amazing Amanda doll for her birthday. She loves it, but it takes like an hour to program the thing. Why, for the love of God, doesn't it have a little bluetooth interface so I can configure it from the computer? Or my cell phone? And why does it sound so bad? Is it really that hard to get a decent sounding speech syntesizer. It sounds as bad as my old Cricket speech synthesizer that I had on my Apple //e like 20 years ago. And the speech recognition is barely usable. My daughter says "it doesn't look this hard on TV." ARGH! One final rant while I'm at it, my daughter had this little battery powered Barbie VW Beetle car to drive around. It had hard plastic wheels. These things wouldn't grip on any surface known to man. Carpet? Nope. Concrete? Nope. Grass? Nope. Gravel? Nope. Hardwood floor? Nope. Linoleum? Nope. Where the hell are you supposed to drive this thing. And then, it takes like 100 feet to turn it around. And the truth is, at that age, they can't steer anyway? So as a parent, you have to walk around behind it to guide it and keep it moving. ARGH! Put some rubber tires on it, make it turn and give me a frickin' remote control. One last thing... now admittedly I live where it's hilly, but why doesn't anyone put a CVT in a children's bikes? I'm not even going to start on cell phones. The thing that really bugs me about all this is that within the first 3 minutes of use, all of these flaws are obvious to me. (One should not conclude that I have some uncanny ability to detect subtle flaws in products, but that these products are basically broken by design). I just can't believe that someone didn't figure this stuff out before shipping the product. And I can't believe that no one calls them on it now. I need a drink... For the life of me, I can’t understand how this is not considered an complete and total failure of the A/V equipment industry. This technology has barely advanced in 20 years. The thing is, as soon as you have to explain a solution, you’ve already lost. And to everyone who says to get a programmable remote… the programmable remote is an admission of failure. It’s like putting a band aid on a severed limb.

First, programming them is like writing in assembly language. This is a task I do not want to do. (OK, I’ll admit this is less of a problem with those Harmony remotes, but the rest of my complaints hold true for those as well).

Second, they take … wait for it … forever … to switch a complex system.

Third, most of the time they are sensitive to the state of the equipment. “I tried to turn on your TV. Did it turn on? Is it in AUX2 mode? If not manually turn on the TV and switch it to AUX2 mode, then continue.” Thanks, go programmable remote. Yay!

Fourth, they’re STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE. OMG! It’s a remote control, people. Spend your money on an iPod, you’ll be much happier.

Fifth, undoubtedly you have *that one button* … you know the one … the one you really want to change with the remote but it just won’t do it. I’ve got a couple. The first is turning on/off the A and B speakers on my receiver. They are manual buttons. Ain’t no programmable remote in the world gonna do that. But I need that to switch sound from downstairs to upstairs. Second, for some reason, my stupid Sony VCR (still around so I don’t have to buy Elmo on DVD) has this data screen that pops up and won’t go away unless you have the original remote control.

Anyway, I’ve strayed from the topic a bit, but the point is, all the technology exists and it’s cheap. Why doesn’t somebody frickin’ build it already.

The real answer to this is on-demand digital content (for example, Front Row), so I’ll just sit tight and watch while the A/V equipment business is slowly eaten alive. Of course, I’m not sure how the XBox plays into all this. I’ll just says that someday all this crap should be wireless and auto-negotiate the best configuration for each given environment (how’s that for hand waving?)

And speaking of mis-design, my daughter received an Amazing Amanda doll for her birthday. She loves it, but it takes like an hour to program the thing. Why, for the love of God, doesn’t it have a little bluetooth interface so I can configure it from the computer? Or my cell phone? And why does it sound so bad? Is it really that hard to get a decent sounding speech syntesizer. It sounds as bad as my old Cricket speech synthesizer that I had on my Apple //e like 20 years ago. And the speech recognition is barely usable. My daughter says “it doesn’t look this hard on TV.” ARGH!

One final rant while I’m at it, my daughter had this little battery powered Barbie VW Beetle car to drive around. It had hard plastic wheels. These things wouldn’t grip on any surface known to man. Carpet? Nope. Concrete? Nope. Grass? Nope. Gravel? Nope. Hardwood floor? Nope. Linoleum? Nope. Where the hell are you supposed to drive this thing. And then, it takes like 100 feet to turn it around. And the truth is, at that age, they can’t steer anyway? So as a parent, you have to walk around behind it to guide it and keep it moving. ARGH! Put some rubber tires on it, make it turn and give me a frickin’ remote control.

One last thing… now admittedly I live where it’s hilly, but why doesn’t anyone put a CVT in a children’s bikes?

I’m not even going to start on cell phones.

The thing that really bugs me about all this is that within the first 3 minutes of use, all of these flaws are obvious to me. (One should not conclude that I have some uncanny ability to detect subtle flaws in products, but that these products are basically broken by design). I just can’t believe that someone didn’t figure this stuff out before shipping the product. And I can’t believe that no one calls them on it now.

I need a drink…

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By: Robert 'Groby' Blum http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2072 Robert 'Groby' Blum Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:38:15 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2072 Or, you could just buy a Sony Video router for 70 bucks at best buy. Has 4 inputs, auto-detects which one is one. OK, no ASCII - but for me, it's really switch on XBox, play Halo. (I don't need to insert the disk, either - I'm addicted ;) Of course, no fancy HD for me. There's *no* point in spending money on that for me. Or, you could just buy a Sony Video router for 70 bucks at best buy. Has 4 inputs, auto-detects which one is one. OK, no ASCII – but for me, it’s really switch on XBox, play Halo. (I don’t need to insert the disk, either – I’m addicted ;)

Of course, no fancy HD for me. There’s *no* point in spending money on that for me.

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By: Adam Rixey http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2071 Adam Rixey Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:03:01 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2071 Yeah, the audio authority products are supposed to be very good I almost got one before settling on the Pelican. I wound up picking the cheaper option just because it's essentially a temporary measure until I upgrade to a receiver with more inputs. Still, it is kind of nice to have all my game systems on just one tv/receiver setting called "Game", since I'd never be using more than one at a time. Yeah, the audio authority products are supposed to be very good I almost got one before settling on the Pelican. I wound up picking the cheaper option just because it’s essentially a temporary measure until I upgrade to a receiver with more inputs. Still, it is kind of nice to have all my game systems on just one tv/receiver setting called “Game”, since I’d never be using more than one at a time.

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By: psu http://tleaves.com/2005/11/18/the-mis-design-of-everyday-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2070 psu Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:44:53 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=510#comment-2070 The most infuriating thing about this is that all of the manufacturers know how to do automatic source switching, since each one implements it if you buy an entire system of components from the same company. But rather than make the functionality generally usable, they choose to keep it stupid. There is always this https://www.audioauthority.com/indexh.php The most infuriating thing about this is that all of the manufacturers know how to do automatic source switching, since each one implements it if you buy an entire system of components from the same company. But rather than make the functionality generally usable, they choose to keep it stupid.

There is always this

https://www.audioauthority.com/indexh.php

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