Comments on: Martini Glasses Are Stupid http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/ Creativity x Technology Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:09:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cynthia Closkey http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4481 Cynthia Closkey Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:24:30 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4481 Oh, but here's the other thing: At a lot of bars the bartenders fill massive martini glasses to the brim, and one is pretty much forced to slurp out the first few sips to get the drink under control. There's not much you can do though: You're not going to ask for a smaller drink (I assume), and if you ask them to pour it into a wine glass you're going to spend minutes explaining what you want and why, and then suffering the stares of the rest of the bar. It's a sad statement about our drinking world today. Oh, but here’s the other thing: At a lot of bars the bartenders fill massive martini glasses to the brim, and one is pretty much forced to slurp out the first few sips to get the drink under control.

There’s not much you can do though: You’re not going to ask for a smaller drink (I assume), and if you ask them to pour it into a wine glass you’re going to spend minutes explaining what you want and why, and then suffering the stares of the rest of the bar. It’s a sad statement about our drinking world today.

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By: Cynthia Closkey http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4480 Cynthia Closkey Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:21:04 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4480 It's hard to find a nice bowl-shaped cocktail glass new, but at antique stores and estate sales I've found lots that are better shaped, properly portioned, and well-balanced/not top-heavy. And terrifically swanky to boot. A terrific bar I went to in Seattle, Vessel, has just switched over their entire collection of glassware to antique glasses. So two patrons may not get the same glass, but they'll each get an awesome glass that's perfect to drink from and that suits their drink. It’s hard to find a nice bowl-shaped cocktail glass new, but at antique stores and estate sales I’ve found lots that are better shaped, properly portioned, and well-balanced/not top-heavy. And terrifically swanky to boot.

A terrific bar I went to in Seattle, Vessel, has just switched over their entire collection of glassware to antique glasses. So two patrons may not get the same glass, but they’ll each get an awesome glass that’s perfect to drink from and that suits their drink.

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By: Doug http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4483 Doug Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:28:48 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4483 I guess i did notice the audio (excuse me while I go click on an ad) but it didn't bother me. Now if you were to try to sing with audio like that I think I would find it distracting. I guess i did notice the audio (excuse me while I go click on an ad) but it didn’t bother me. Now if you were to try to sing with audio like that I think I would find it distracting.

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By: Bill Swersey http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4482 Bill Swersey Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:00:16 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4482 No specific comment on the content of this video, but I am enjoying these, so keep them coming. I do think that a modest investment in audio - a wireless mic - will make big difference. I find poor audio a distraction. We humans have good hearing, it is pretty amazing that many people can tell the difference between audio sampled at 44, 22 and 11 kHz, yet can hardly tell video at 30, 20 or 15 fps). No specific comment on the content of this video, but I am enjoying these, so keep them coming.

I do think that a modest investment in audio – a wireless mic – will make big difference. I find poor audio a distraction. We humans have good hearing, it is pretty amazing that many people can tell the difference between audio sampled at 44, 22 and 11 kHz, yet can hardly tell video at 30, 20 or 15 fps).

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By: Doug http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4478 Doug Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:03:22 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4478 Oh, they make excellent salsa dip containers! Especially for the small round chips, they fit perfectly into the bottom to get the last drop of salsa! Oh, they make excellent salsa dip containers! Especially for the small round chips, they fit perfectly into the bottom to get the last drop of salsa!

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By: Duncan http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4479 Duncan Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:10:12 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4479 I agree that it seems you are overfilling the poor martini glass. They are designed to look elegant, and display the drink as much as hold it. Large ones also make great serving dishes for a variety of desserts. :-) I agree that it seems you are overfilling the poor martini glass. They are designed to look elegant, and display the drink as much as hold it.

Large ones also make great serving dishes for a variety of desserts. :-)

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By: Nelson http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4470 Nelson Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:14:12 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4470 As the original snarker about the glass in your Sidecar video, let me say I love this new video. Very nicely done, your wry tone of voice and the edits of the martini glass disasters are great. I like the background of the first shot, too, although if you're going to be in such a rectilinear scene you really need to level the camera. That being said, I couldn't disagree more about your opinion on martini glasses. Yeah, if you fill it to the rim it's impossible to drink from. Duh! A properly filled martini glass is about half full, so the liquid is about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up to the rim. Even so the glass is a bit top heavy and unstable, true. But it has a charm and propriety to it that's part of the drink. Cocktail time is a ritual and its furnishings must be properly acknowledged. It doesn't help that you used a tacky glass with a novelty crooked stem. By the way, the straight sided V shape is properly speaking a martini glass. A cocktail glass is traditionally slightly bowl-shaped, although you almost never see one anywhere anymore. Overpriced-manufacturer Riedell has one roughly the shape I'm thinking, see http://www.amazon.com/Riedel-Extreme-Martini-Cocktail-Glasses/dp/B000069CEO One of the best cocktails I was ever served was at the Mercer Kitchen in New York. The glass there was slightly curved, but in the opposite direction from a bowl, making for a glass that got shallower to the top. Beautiful shape, almost impossible to drink from. As the original snarker about the glass in your Sidecar video, let me say I love this new video. Very nicely done, your wry tone of voice and the edits of the martini glass disasters are great. I like the background of the first shot, too, although if you’re going to be in such a rectilinear scene you really need to level the camera.

That being said, I couldn’t disagree more about your opinion on martini glasses. Yeah, if you fill it to the rim it’s impossible to drink from. Duh! A properly filled martini glass is about half full, so the liquid is about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up to the rim. Even so the glass is a bit top heavy and unstable, true. But it has a charm and propriety to it that’s part of the drink. Cocktail time is a ritual and its furnishings must be properly acknowledged.

It doesn’t help that you used a tacky glass with a novelty crooked stem.

By the way, the straight sided V shape is properly speaking a martini glass. A cocktail glass is traditionally slightly bowl-shaped, although you almost never see one anywhere anymore. Overpriced-manufacturer Riedell has one roughly the shape I’m thinking, see http://www.amazon.com/Riedel-Extreme-Martini-Cocktail-Glasses/dp/B000069CEO

One of the best cocktails I was ever served was at the Mercer Kitchen in New York. The glass there was slightly curved, but in the opposite direction from a bowl, making for a glass that got shallower to the top. Beautiful shape, almost impossible to drink from.

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By: SR http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4471 SR Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:48:48 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4471 Drink what you want out of what you want. I've had more than a few Manhattans on the rocks, so I shouldn't be throwing stones. But really: don't fill it to the rim. Most martini glasses are 7oz and up - you have to search a bit to find ones as small as 5oz. Make your drinks 4oz at a time and you'll be happier for it. They'll be icy from start to finish, and you won't spill a drop until at least your 5th cocktail. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that highball glass suggestion. Assuming you're not throwing ice cubes into the glass, wouldn't a highball glass either involve a LOT of gin or a lot of tilting your head backwards? Drink what you want out of what you want. I’ve had more than a few Manhattans on the rocks, so I shouldn’t be throwing stones.

But really: don’t fill it to the rim. Most martini glasses are 7oz and up – you have to search a bit to find ones as small as 5oz. Make your drinks 4oz at a time and you’ll be happier for it. They’ll be icy from start to finish, and you won’t spill a drop until at least your 5th cocktail.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around that highball glass suggestion. Assuming you’re not throwing ice cubes into the glass, wouldn’t a highball glass either involve a LOT of gin or a lot of tilting your head backwards?

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By: peterb http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4472 peterb Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:08:03 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4472 I can't wait to do my martini recipe video and serve it in a jelly jar. I can’t wait to do my martini recipe video and serve it in a jelly jar.

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By: Doug http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4473 Doug Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:05:56 +0000 http://tleaves.com/2007/11/08/martini-glasses-are-stupid/#comment-4473 I too expected the glass to be thrown against the wall. "The whole point is to be sipped?" Well the problem is carrying it (especially by the stem) until you've sipped the first inch away because the sides are not made in any way to keep liquid from rolling out, in fact encourage it. Combine that with drinks numbered 2,3, and 4 and there will be liquid somewhere it doesn't belong. I suppose some people have developed through extensive training good martini carrying skills. I haven't so I'll take the wine glass (or coffee mug). -Doug I too expected the glass to be thrown against the wall.

“The whole point is to be sipped?” Well the problem is carrying it (especially by the stem) until you’ve sipped the first inch away because the sides are not made in any way to keep liquid from rolling out, in fact encourage it. Combine that with drinks numbered 2,3, and 4 and there will be liquid somewhere it doesn’t belong. I suppose some people have developed through extensive training good martini carrying skills. I haven’t so I’ll take the wine glass (or coffee mug).

-Doug

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