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		<title>By: WCE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.  It seems almost random.

I&#039;ve got 2 VWs.  One is a 9 year old Passat, the other a new TDI Sportwagen.

The issue I&#039;ve had is that terrible roads have killed 2 oil pans.  In nine years I&#039;ve had two electrical issues, both switches that were not too hard to replace, and they haven&#039;t recurred.  My main beef is the &quot;soft touch&quot; coatings they used.  They were really great for about 3 years.  Now they are peeling off and look sort of nasty despite the fact that I keep the car very clean.  The TDI just has plastic, without the coat.  It&#039;s not as high end, but it should be fine forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.  It seems almost random.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got 2 VWs.  One is a 9 year old Passat, the other a new TDI Sportwagen.</p>
<p>The issue I&#8217;ve had is that terrible roads have killed 2 oil pans.  In nine years I&#8217;ve had two electrical issues, both switches that were not too hard to replace, and they haven&#8217;t recurred.  My main beef is the &#8220;soft touch&#8221; coatings they used.  They were really great for about 3 years.  Now they are peeling off and look sort of nasty despite the fact that I keep the car very clean.  The TDI just has plastic, without the coat.  It&#8217;s not as high end, but it should be fine forever.</p>
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		<title>By: peterb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I hope you don&#039;t think that there is anything wrong with car wankerdom!  I&#039;m a car wanker too.

In context of this article, the &quot;wanky&quot; part is not &quot;I like this car&quot; but rather comparing different cars &lt;em&gt;without reference to price&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I hope you don&#8217;t think that there is anything wrong with car wankerdom!  I&#8217;m a car wanker too.</p>
<p>In context of this article, the &#8220;wanky&#8221; part is not &#8220;I like this car&#8221; but rather comparing different cars <em>without reference to price</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: jkp1187</title>
		<link>http://tleaves.com/2009/05/04/buyers-premorse/comment-page-1/#comment-5371</link>
		<dc:creator>jkp1187</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pokémon isn&#039;t what I was thinking....the grille just looks like it has an overbite.  I think it looks better on the new RL.  [Shrugs].  Enough to steer me away from it, but if you&#039;re cool with it that&#039;s all that matters.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get 10 years of use out of it easily, though.  Much more, probably.  Sure are a lot of old Acura Legends prowling around Pittsburgh.

Agree with holding off on the tech package.  In-car nav systems get outdated in just a couple of years.  Worse, automakers like to thread all kinds of in-car systems through them now, too, like HVAC and stereo controls.  So when they inevitably break in five years, you basically have to drop a thousand or two on replacing it, or else live without air conditioning.

And I just hope you don&#039;t consign me to wankerdom when you hear that I&#039;m buying a 135i.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pokémon isn&#8217;t what I was thinking&#8230;.the grille just looks like it has an overbite.  I think it looks better on the new RL.  [Shrugs].  Enough to steer me away from it, but if you&#8217;re cool with it that&#8217;s all that matters.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get 10 years of use out of it easily, though.  Much more, probably.  Sure are a lot of old Acura Legends prowling around Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>Agree with holding off on the tech package.  In-car nav systems get outdated in just a couple of years.  Worse, automakers like to thread all kinds of in-car systems through them now, too, like HVAC and stereo controls.  So when they inevitably break in five years, you basically have to drop a thousand or two on replacing it, or else live without air conditioning.</p>
<p>And I just hope you don&#8217;t consign me to wankerdom when you hear that I&#8217;m buying a 135i.  <img src='http://tleaves.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: psu</title>
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		<dc:creator>psu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often thought that very thought. Now of course I have to avoid that sort of thinking because it can only lead to inappropriate shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often thought that very thought. Now of course I have to avoid that sort of thinking because it can only lead to inappropriate shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: r.</title>
		<link>http://tleaves.com/2009/05/04/buyers-premorse/comment-page-1/#comment-5369</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad there are no Acura wagons in North America. I already have an electrically unreliable German wagon (granted, almost 20 years old now). While I do love it, sometimes I long for a Japanese version where all the button pushy bits work, in addition to it getting me from A to B with all my crap in the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad there are no Acura wagons in North America. I already have an electrically unreliable German wagon (granted, almost 20 years old now). While I do love it, sometimes I long for a Japanese version where all the button pushy bits work, in addition to it getting me from A to B with all my crap in the back.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you found a car you liked.  I have a 5.5 year old Honda Civic Hybrid with 130k or so miles on it, and I haven&#039;t had to bring it in for anything other than scheduled maintenance.  Well, that and the fact that I have to bring it in to have them put back the bumper where I tore it half off by backing too sharply out of my driveway during 8-foot snowbanks of ice season.  But if you&#039;re less of a dumbass than me, your Honda/Acura should last forever.

I&#039;m dedicated to driving this car into the ground, which hopefully won&#039;t be for another 80 thousand miles or so (or about 20 years with my now greatly reduced driving schedule), but I&#039;m already eyeing the new Insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you found a car you liked.  I have a 5.5 year old Honda Civic Hybrid with 130k or so miles on it, and I haven&#8217;t had to bring it in for anything other than scheduled maintenance.  Well, that and the fact that I have to bring it in to have them put back the bumper where I tore it half off by backing too sharply out of my driveway during 8-foot snowbanks of ice season.  But if you&#8217;re less of a dumbass than me, your Honda/Acura should last forever.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m dedicated to driving this car into the ground, which hopefully won&#8217;t be for another 80 thousand miles or so (or about 20 years with my now greatly reduced driving schedule), but I&#8217;m already eyeing the new Insight.</p>
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		<title>By: tims</title>
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		<dc:creator>tims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.. I bought a VW New Beetle in 2001. Now, I don&#039;t know the first thing about cars, but it&#039;s been fun to drive, and seeing people punch each other in the arm as I drive by is kind of priceless ;)

That said... it broke down within 2 weeks. Electrical problem. It then broke down like clockwork every 6 months. Electrical problems every time. After 6 years or so it finally seemed like the electronics had been ironed out, so the mechanical problems started hitting. The actual service at the dealership has been excellent, but I just wish I wasn&#039;t practically on a first-name basis with them.

So yeah.. I won&#039;t be buying another VW anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.. I bought a VW New Beetle in 2001. Now, I don&#8217;t know the first thing about cars, but it&#8217;s been fun to drive, and seeing people punch each other in the arm as I drive by is kind of priceless <img src='http://tleaves.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said&#8230; it broke down within 2 weeks. Electrical problem. It then broke down like clockwork every 6 months. Electrical problems every time. After 6 years or so it finally seemed like the electronics had been ironed out, so the mechanical problems started hitting. The actual service at the dealership has been excellent, but I just wish I wasn&#8217;t practically on a first-name basis with them.</p>
<p>So yeah.. I won&#8217;t be buying another VW anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: peterb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 03:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the TSX styling.  I&#039;ve heard people complain about the grille because &quot;it looks like a Pokémon!&quot; which might, in fact, explain why I like it.  I found the older model TSXs to look pretty boring.

Bavaria -&gt; Wolfsburg:  fixed.  Thanks for the correction.

I didn&#039;t get the technology package because it didn&#039;t really look very compelling, and I have yet to meet an in-car navigation system that&#039;s as good as an iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the TSX styling.  I&#8217;ve heard people complain about the grille because &#8220;it looks like a Pokémon!&#8221; which might, in fact, explain why I like it.  I found the older model TSXs to look pretty boring.</p>
<p>Bavaria -> Wolfsburg:  fixed.  Thanks for the correction.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get the technology package because it didn&#8217;t really look very compelling, and I have yet to meet an in-car navigation system that&#8217;s as good as an iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: jkp1187</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkp1187</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice story.

I can&#039;t say I&#039;m a fan of the new TSX&#039;s styling, but if you like it, more power to you.  Did you get the technology package, too?

I still think it&#039;s an atrocity that they uselessly stuffed an optional V-6 in it this year instead of the 2.2L diesel.  I just envision that one creating extra weight, lower MPG, and mushier handling without really adding much to the experience.  The TSX - like all good Hondas - begs for a high-revving 4 cylinder.

I really, REALLY wish I had confidence in VW/Audi reliability.  It has supposedly improved lately, but....the word on the street (read: places like TDIClub.com) is that service remains atrocious.  The word I&#039;ve heard is that buying a new VW is like buying a brand-new car without a warranty.   It&#039;s too bad - I almost certainly would&#039;ve gotten a Jetta GLI or TDI as my next car.  Maybe if reliability trends continue upward, a TDI Sportwagen might be an interesting car to consider when Mrs. JKP1187&#039;s car needs to be replaced.

Just...please...for the love of god....don&#039;t wait 100,000 miles to do an oil change.  [shudders]

[nitpick] VW isn&#039;t in Bavaria.  It&#039;s in Wolfsburg, near the old intra-German border east of Hanover.  [/nitpick]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice story.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a fan of the new TSX&#8217;s styling, but if you like it, more power to you.  Did you get the technology package, too?</p>
<p>I still think it&#8217;s an atrocity that they uselessly stuffed an optional V-6 in it this year instead of the 2.2L diesel.  I just envision that one creating extra weight, lower MPG, and mushier handling without really adding much to the experience.  The TSX &#8211; like all good Hondas &#8211; begs for a high-revving 4 cylinder.</p>
<p>I really, REALLY wish I had confidence in VW/Audi reliability.  It has supposedly improved lately, but&#8230;.the word on the street (read: places like TDIClub.com) is that service remains atrocious.  The word I&#8217;ve heard is that buying a new VW is like buying a brand-new car without a warranty.   It&#8217;s too bad &#8211; I almost certainly would&#8217;ve gotten a Jetta GLI or TDI as my next car.  Maybe if reliability trends continue upward, a TDI Sportwagen might be an interesting car to consider when Mrs. JKP1187&#8217;s car needs to be replaced.</p>
<p>Just&#8230;please&#8230;for the love of god&#8230;.don&#8217;t wait 100,000 miles to do an oil change.  [shudders]</p>
<p>[nitpick] VW isn&#8217;t in Bavaria.  It&#8217;s in Wolfsburg, near the old intra-German border east of Hanover.  [/nitpick]</p>
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