Comments on: Beyond Alton Brown http://tleaves.com/2006/07/31/beyond-alton-brown/ Creativity x Technology Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:09:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: peterb http://tleaves.com/2006/07/31/beyond-alton-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3128 peterb Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:46:06 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=660#comment-3128 One thing you can do is peel the top skin off the yogurt while it cools. But the texture is definitely different; I like it. De gustibus and all that. One thing you can do is peel the top skin off the yogurt while it cools. But the texture is definitely different; I like it. De gustibus and all that.

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By: cache http://tleaves.com/2006/07/31/beyond-alton-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3127 cache Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:37:26 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=660#comment-3127 I tried this, and instead of my its creamy lusciousness, my yogurt was peppered with what can only be described as papery films. It's like the proteins all globbed together during the culturing to make hundreds of little skins. I'm going to hazard a guess that I failed because I used skim milk, which will often react less pleasantly to heating than high-fat milks. I tried this, and instead of my its creamy lusciousness, my yogurt was peppered with what can only be described as papery films. It’s like the proteins all globbed together during the culturing to make hundreds of little skins.

I’m going to hazard a guess that I failed because I used skim milk, which will often react less pleasantly to heating than high-fat milks.

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By: Shelby Davis http://tleaves.com/2006/07/31/beyond-alton-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3126 Shelby Davis Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:11:17 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=660#comment-3126 This sounds like a good way to get a yogurt closer to greek-style consistency. And the maillard reactions also sound like a good thing. Yet another reason for me to get a better saucepan. This sounds like a good way to get a yogurt closer to greek-style consistency. And the maillard reactions also sound like a good thing. Yet another reason for me to get a better saucepan.

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By: Tom Moertel http://tleaves.com/2006/07/31/beyond-alton-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3125 Tom Moertel Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:22:02 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=660#comment-3125 On boiling the milk in yogurt making, Harold McGee writes, "Traditionally, the milk for yogurt was given a prolonged boiling to concentrate the proteins and give a firmer texture. Today, manufacturers can boost protein content by adding dry milk powder, but they still cook the milk for 30 minutes at 185 degF or at 195 degF for 10 minutes. These treatments improve the consistency of the yogurt by denaturing the whey protein lactoglobulin, whose otherwise unreactive molecules then participate by clustering on the surfaces of the casein particles. With the helpful interference of the lactoglobulins, the casein particles can only bond to each other at a few spots, and so gather not in clusters but in a fine matrix of chains that is much better at retaining liquid in its small interstices." (McGee, _On Food and Cooking_, 2004) Your fifteen-minute boil earned you a more concentrated yogurt base and a finer protein matrix. Also, McGee notes that "prolonged boiling encourages browning or Maillard reactions ... and generates molecules that combine to give the flavor of butterscotch." No wonder your yogurt was good. I'm not sure what Alton gains with his low-temperature method. Maybe he likes his yogurt to taste more like fresh milk. On boiling the milk in yogurt making, Harold McGee writes, “Traditionally, the milk for yogurt was given a prolonged boiling to concentrate the proteins and give a firmer texture. Today, manufacturers can boost protein content by adding dry milk powder, but they still cook the milk for 30 minutes at 185 degF or at 195 degF for 10 minutes. These treatments improve the consistency of the yogurt by denaturing the whey protein lactoglobulin, whose otherwise unreactive molecules then participate by clustering on the surfaces of the casein particles. With the helpful interference of the lactoglobulins, the casein particles can only bond to each other at a few spots, and so gather not in clusters but in a fine matrix of chains that is much better at retaining liquid in its small interstices.” (McGee, _On Food and Cooking_, 2004)

Your fifteen-minute boil earned you a more concentrated yogurt base and a finer protein matrix. Also, McGee notes that “prolonged boiling encourages browning or Maillard reactions … and generates molecules that combine to give the flavor of butterscotch.” No wonder your yogurt was good.

I’m not sure what Alton gains with his low-temperature method. Maybe he likes his yogurt to taste more like fresh milk.

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By: Doug http://tleaves.com/2006/07/31/beyond-alton-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3124 Doug Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:05:37 +0000 http://tleaves.com/?p=660#comment-3124 Cool, I've made yogurt several times but I've never boiled the milk. I did always leave it "culturing" for much longer than you are supposed to, usually a full 24 hours. Apparently that makes it more sour and such but the sour yogurt flavor is the one I love! Cool, I’ve made yogurt several times but I’ve never boiled the milk. I did always leave it “culturing” for much longer than you are supposed to, usually a full 24 hours. Apparently that makes it more sour and such but the sour yogurt flavor is the one I love!

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